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Talk It Out: Conversation As Art

Posted in Interviews, POB Audio, Psychology, Society Clubs or Social Groups, Uncategorized with tags , , , , , , on July 23, 2019 by Drogo

Join us as we search for meaningful conversation, that may or may not be pleasant or comfortable. Will we know what we are talking about the whole time? Find out! [SHOW LINK]

in a busy world of working for less and less pay, at jobs that would rather replace you than let you take time off, communication has largely been reduced to texting loved ones and ignoring customers who are forced to deal with machines. is there a natural need to have meaningful conversation, or should those of us who prefer to spend a certain amount of time talking all be therapists or long-distance sex workers??

use caution when listening – we are not trained conversational professionals. any opinions we have are to be considered hear-say or entertainment for legal purposes. We are also not paid to compete against commercial level production, so just sit back and relax, or move on to something else, because it is not worth getting upset about. i agree with experts on somethings about talking, but not everything they say is true for everyone, they give general guides for awareness. Speak the way that is best for you, and silence is ok too sometimes, when communication fails.

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Conversation as Science – According to experts

Communication Construction and Deconstruction

Signs & Symbols, Language Families & Standard Rules

When we talk about language rule standards: grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, Dictionary definitions, Semiology (signs and symbols), and Semantics (semiotic meanings), etc. that could be a transition into word order and how we read the way we prefer to talk, leading into artistic self expression and times we want to mimic others, which leads into artistic styles and interpretation of communication, and self expression, specifically conversation as art.

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Julien Treasure – HAIL: Honest, true; Authentic, real; Integrity, responsible; Love, wishing well.

Sugar or honey with honesty is nice. Don’t: gossip, judge, complain, blame, lie, exaggerate, or have flaws (unless joking or there are real problems).

 

Celeste Headlee – weather and health are not enough. How to talk and have meaningful conversation even with people we disagree with deeply.

  1. Focus on talk, until out of it, be present.
  2. Be open to learning, or at least respectful in responses.
  3. Open ended questions?
  4. Let most things go.
  5. It is ok to say you dont know everything.
  6. Some personalities like to have comparative sympathy, while others think it is too competitive to compare experience values. (i edited)
  7. Dont brag (too much) and Dont repeat (too much)
  8. Details dont (always) matter.
  9. Try to balance (if possible) time talking vs listening (for equality).
  10. Be brief, but interested. (people are busy, but sometimes want more time with someone that can help them, in a time of need)

 

Ted talks – General guide options, not true for all.

 

Brene’ Brown – power of vulnerability, empathy

 

Marc Pachter – interview as art, meaning in life. Energy is more important than intellect. Story worth sharing. Modesty wastes time, you have to think it is worth some value to tell your story. Competing for attention can lead to arguing, not discussing, unless it is fun for everyone. Wrestle for the key to unlock story.

 

Sherry Turkle – connected but alone? Conversation has depth (emotion, language, sound) of communication that no amount of texting connection can adapt to.

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Communication Deconstruction

Signs & Symbols, Language Families & Standard Rules

When we talk about language rule standards: grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, Dictionary definitions, Semiology (signs and symbols), and Semantics (semiotic meanings), etc. this is the science of communication. The word order and how we ‘read the way we prefer to talk’, based on cultural factors are how we interpret what laws should be. 

From common slang greetings that are not properly correct, to a feeling of fake formal presentation vs real country folk authentic accents; opinions are relative. Rules give general guides, and rebels will break the rules their way.  But not everyone wants to conform to all the rules, in the liberal vs literalist dichotomy. Between mixed families and dialects there is language evolution. Artistic self expression, group styles, and regional markers are as valid as any rules.

There are times we want to mimic others, not to ‘make fun of’ to insult, but to match and sympathize with their way. Individual styles and interpretation of communication, are integral for conversation as art. Art can be harmonious, but also chaotic. I agree with experts on some talking points, to have common language ground, and reference points for discussion about what is important to talk about. It is nice to know how and why to be polite, but also be able to show honest emotions and desires. Speak the way that is best for you, and silence is ok too sometimes, when communication fails. Some people are mute and prefer silence, that is ok too.

 

This is the art of conversation.

We call to each other from afar,

Approaching we talk of weather and feather

And we come close to whisper in our ears

To say or not to say, or how shall we say it?

Is this the art of conversation?

 

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Arts & Literature Seasonal Gathering

Posted in Education / Schools, Events / Celebrations, Individuals / Members / Monsters / Creative Writing, jobs, news, Services, Sales or Trade, Society Clubs or Social Groups, Uncategorized with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on October 9, 2018 by Drogo

Day, Month, Year, Time – Arts & Literature Seasonal Gathering – You are invited to the Victorian Townhouse of the Honorable S.P. (near Market Street) __ Third Street, downtown Frederick, MD; to read anything of your choice for apx.10 minutes, and our informal group will discuss for about the same time as the reading. Tea will be served.

Democratic voting on name of group, which selections to read, whether to record, and date of next meeting.

[for actual current details contact SCOD members]

The Inklings

Posted in Fictional Stories, Memorials / Obituaries / Epitaphs, Society Clubs or Social Groups, Uncategorized with tags , , , , , , , , on October 5, 2018 by Drogo

The Inklings (1930-1949)

The Inklings were an informal literary discussion pub group, led by JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis and other friends associated with Oxford University in England. The Inklings valued fantasy narratives in fiction. Lewis loved listening to other authors who were reading, and he memorized their passages easily.

Lewis and Tolkien invited and met fellow writers to talk and listen at pubs. Regular Inkling meetings were on tuesday mornings at the ‘Eagle & Child’ (aka “Bird and Baby”). Meetings were also held in Lewis’s Magdalen rooms, thursday evenings with tea served.

The third main member of the Inklings was Oxford University Press editor Charles Williams. Other Inkling members included Lewis’s brother Warren Lewis, Victor “Hugo” Dyson, Adam Fox, Lord David Cecil, Neville Coghill, Owen Barfield, Robert “Humphrey” Havard, Gervase Mathew, and Commander Dundas-Grant. Associate Inklings that visited were Colin Hardie, Christopher Tolkien (JRR Tolkien’s son), Roger Green, Percy Bates, Ronald McCallum, Charles Wrenn, E.R. Eddison, Roy Campbell, and other friends of regular members. There were no officers, agendas, or minutes taken at meetings. Most of these did not write fiction, but were scholars of non-fiction.

The whimsical group name “Inklings” was borrowed from an Oxford under-graduate literary club circa 1930. Tolkien described his Inkling meetings as “a feast of reason and flow of soul”, which basically meant lively listening and responses. Lewis said “What I owe them all is incalculable.” And to emphasize their enjoyment, he asked, “Is any pleasure on earth as great as a circle of Christian friends by a good fire?” Lewis said that friends made a difference in his life.